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#1 Allan

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Posted 02 May 2005 - 07:42 AM

The only way that you can improve your reputation on this site is to have other people "vote" on your posts.

If you read a good post, then click on the smiley face at the bottom left corner of that person's post. You will be able to approve or disapprove of that person's post.

It is a good thing to get the better reputation as you post on here. We help each other as we learn from each other.
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Posted 02 May 2005 - 10:01 PM

nice tip, allan. Thanks for that...
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Posted 26 July 2005 - 05:50 AM

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#4 Allan

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 08:31 PM

One nice feature of the reputation button is that you can see what others have voted on your posts. GO to "My Settings" and the window will show the anonomous votes.
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 11:03 AM

If and when you read a post that you like or dislike, you can "vote" on the poster. Adding points to a poster's reputation will help others check out the value that the poster brings to the table.

If you lay your cursor on the little box (might be green) under the poster name, you will be given a reputation rating for that poster.

If you leave points with a poster, give them a word or to of information as to why you gave the reputation. This is anonymous to you and only the poster can see the comment.
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#6 Chris Miller

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 11:04 AM

Good stuff..... and if the person brings nothing to the table, don't feel bad about giving them negative reputation. ;)

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 03:51 PM

I went to "My Settings" and couldn't find anything about reputaion. How do you view yours?

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:08 PM

I personally have never paid attention to a poster's 'rating' and probably won't start now.

I can tell if a post is helpful to me by reading it, and I don't see any 'added value' of checking the popularity of the poster... Sounds too much like a Jr.-Hi popularity contest... JMHO.

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:44 PM

NOTE: to make this clear and make a point, this is going to be a long and philosophical type business-comment/advice posting. You/anyone are fairly forwarned it's not an easy read; if you want to pass, now's the time.

Chris, I want to offer you more of my professional advice. I appreicate it when you ask for it and even when you don't if you will be open to it!

Since you've publicaly posted in this new stream your leadership support for a popularity and subjective based rating system that is very possibly going to0 to be used or misused by the 10% jerk factor that exist in any such community of internet snipers, you can have my reaction and advice publicly.

i think it's a mistake and going in this wrong direction.

if ranking are actually needed at all, i think you can and should just let the numbers talk that have to do with people voting with their choices of whether they tune in and and stay tuned in, and measure how often people chime in their two cents, and rank users/members those ways is fine ... also include in their 'profile' how many per stream started, how many streams participated in, and other objective type measurables.

this would be much safer/better ground, if there is any 'purpose' for this type of ranking of people's participation at all, which I'm not sure I agree there is.

For one example, you know from experience that when i showed up in d-talk and you heard from 'enemies' right off the bat, and there was a lot of nuisance sniping from some of those 40 or so who I told you knew of and decidedly don't like my political or PPAI business views before I started posting here ..the way i've challenged the powers to be and expressed some very strong and challenging positions has left some wraw feelings. Tough is my attitude as long as I'm always fair and respectful, sure of myself, etc. I am. So it's just one of the bumps along the way. Life goes on.

But this is just one example of how popularity rating systems can be misused by uncontrolled, blind and unsubstantiated ratings that have to do only with the person's personal approval of peoples opinions and personalities.

I don't think that is needed or right for any person who is appearing up front and out front on D-Talk.

And again, I'm not sure I even see the real purpose... if a 'ratings' system is needed, use actual measureables and let everyone form their own personal opinions on the content, value, etc.... but what is the value really?

Is it supposed to 'punish' offenders to the point they do better?

Is it supposed to scare innocent members off from reading certain othyer member's people's posts, to ostensibly save them from themselves wasting time or being misinformed or something?

Should be come up with an "slashed circle" symbol with the person's user name in the center slashed thru, making sure the real losers names are clearly know whenever they appear to comment on any future stream?!"

Okay I'm kidding, but not about not seeing where the real value/use is. Any education/information welcomed. I know I don't know everything for sure.

Chris, in sum, I don't know this particular niche of business as well as you do, but i do know the promo industry well, and i don't like the smell of this and i don't see any real value in it worse of all, and doubt it would be popular anyway. Just remember my advice for DT: Build it well and they will come and stay. That means finding and filling needs and hot buttons. I don't see as an example of that in that I don't see many industry people other than the extreme busy bodies and active political types who would find this appealing or useful! Seriously again, what's really in it for anyone?

This would not be the best move I've seen DT make. That's my honest professional and friendly opinion offered to you publicly for the obvious reasons. but at the same time it is obviously only a small issue really.

I know it took a long memoto explain this my advice to you 'personally and I have done it to support your great new service. I surely hope you are no one else would give me an ungood report with that intention, no matter how badly you/anyone might not like the length of this. Kidding. But point made!

Let me know if any questions or if I can help in any way.

Chris Miller said:

Good stuff..... and if the person brings nothing to the table, don't feel bad about giving them negative reputation. ;)


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 06:58 PM

chris, an experiment:

If I understand this right, with the existing system anyone can vote someone thumbs down in general for any post they make, and the thumbs down (and thumbs up) votes will build as votes come in for the postee/member.

As you will remembe the other day off-board you explained this rating system to me and pointed out that I was "lucky" because no one had posted any negative postings/personal thumbs down votes on my record/file. That was after several weeks of postings.

Like you said then people must not have been aware of it. Anyway ...

Now that this new stream is posted and going to call attention to it ...

I'm anxious to see how many if any members give me any type of rating vote now that they are more aware of that possibility.

You know what I 'suspect' might happen with some people who simply have an ax to grind with me because of my strong, personal political opinions.

I guess the thumbs down votes have to be kept anonymous, but I would hope anyone who votes me down (or up) will let me know personally in a post, and explain why. If they did that I would be obliged to accept their criticism objectively/fairly, and reply to them in kind, and I would.

Maybe that's a future 'tweak' to consider to make 'ranking's more meaningful and more 'kosher' if you know what I mean (again I don't see value anyway).

Maybe I'm making too much of this. It's the way I am on stuff like this that is 'syndication' of information and publishing to the industry/standards oriented.

I hope you understand and that this is helpful to you in some way, and DT.

Al

HarpoonAl said:

NOTE: to make this clear and make a point, this is going to be a long and philosophical type business-comment/advice posting. You/anyone are fairly forwarned it's not an easy read; if you want to pass, now's the time.

Chris, I want to offer you more of my professional advice. I appreicate it when you ask for it and even when you don't if you will be open to it!

Since you've publicaly posted in this new stream your leadership support for a popularity and subjective based rating system that is very possibly going to0 to be used or misused by the 10% jerk factor that exist in any such community of internet snipers, you can have my reaction and advice publicly.

i think it's a mistake and going in this wrong direction.

if ranking are actually needed at all, i think you can and should just let the numbers talk that have to do with people voting with their choices of whether they tune in and and stay tuned in, and measure how often people chime in their two cents, and rank users/members those ways is fine ... also include in their 'profile' how many per stream started, how many streams participated in, and other objective type measurables.

this would be much safer/better ground, if there is any 'purpose' for this type of ranking of people's participation at all, which I'm not sure I agree there is.

For one example, you know from experience that when i showed up in d-talk and you heard from 'enemies' right off the bat, and there was a lot of nuisance sniping from some of those 40 or so who I told you knew of and decidedly don't like my political or PPAI business views before I started posting here ..the way i've challenged the powers to be and expressed some very strong and challenging positions has left some wraw feelings. Tough is my attitude as long as I'm always fair and respectful, sure of myself, etc. I am. So it's just one of the bumps along the way. Life goes on.

But this is just one example of how popularity rating systems can be misused by uncontrolled, blind and unsubstantiated ratings that have to do only with the person's personal approval of peoples opinions and personalities.

I don't think that is needed or right for any person who is appearing up front and out front on D-Talk.

And again, I'm not sure I even see the real purpose... if a 'ratings' system is needed, use actual measureables and let everyone form their own personal opinions on the content, value, etc.... but what is the value really?

Is it supposed to 'punish' offenders to the point they do better?

Is it supposed to scare innocent members off from reading certain othyer member's people's posts, to ostensibly save them from themselves wasting time or being misinformed or something?

Should be come up with an "slashed circle" symbol with the person's user name in the center slashed thru, making sure the real losers names are clearly know whenever they appear to comment on any future stream?!"

Okay I'm kidding, but not about not seeing where the real value/use is. Any education/information welcomed. I know I don't know everything for sure.

Chris, in sum, I don't know this particular niche of business as well as you do, but i do know the promo industry well, and i don't like the smell of this and i don't see any real value in it worse of all, and doubt it would be popular anyway. Just remember my advice for DT: Build it well and they will come and stay. That means finding and filling needs and hot buttons. I don't see as an example of that in that I don't see many industry people other than the extreme busy bodies and active political types who would find this appealing or useful! Seriously again, what's really in it for anyone?

This would not be the best move I've seen DT make. That's my honest professional and friendly opinion offered to you publicly for the obvious reasons. but at the same time it is obviously only a small issue really.

I know it took a long memoto explain this my advice to you 'personally and I have done it to support your great new service. I surely hope you are no one else would give me an ungood report with that intention, no matter how badly you/anyone might not like the length of this. Kidding. But point made!

Let me know if any questions or if I can help in any way.


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:28 PM

I agreed with Al and just tried to rate his post. The web board won't let me rate his post, and said to vote on some other reputations before I vote on his.

The system is ambiguous, ratings are subjective at BEST and misleading in all liklihood.

Unless a great reason to keep / use the rating system becomes immediately apparent I will boycott it. The rating system is bogus and a waste of time.

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:54 PM

I'm with artsads. Could care less what your rating is. . . I'll make up my own mind based on what you type.

If you like what I have to say, wonderful, if you disagree wonderful. Either reply to the post and say so or send me a PM if you want to take it off line. We are all (hopefully) adults here and if you have something to say, say it. Don't hide behind some anonymous rating system. This is not a personality contest, it is a forum for ideas.

Let's all go out there and sell and make money.

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I personally have never paid attention to a poster's 'rating' and probably won't start now.

I can tell if a post is helpful to me by reading it, and I don't see any 'added value' of checking the popularity of the poster... Sounds too much like a Jr.-Hi popularity contest... JMHO.


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#13 Chris Miller

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:35 PM

It's just part of the system guys, don't take is so seriously. I don't even think anyone uses it. I will say though that if it's used right it could be a useful tool for newcomers to the site. I would like to know I am getting advice from someone who is well respected in the community.

Who knows.....

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 11:05 AM

The whole point of this thread was to make readers aware of one of the features of the board. There are several features that exist that are under used and I may bring them up so that the readers may become aware of them. Or not. :P

BTW, Al, This is not a new post. It was started in May by me. I think that posting predates any conversation that you have had on the board.

For those who think it is childish, fine. I will just take my toys and go home. :)
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 06:11 AM

OK AL... Here you go. I am one that believes you rarely have anything constructive to add to these posts. I am telling you in public and would tell you personally when I meet you. You drone on and on without a point and many people have thanked me in PMs for hinting to this fact to you in the past. I have tried putting your posts on IGNORE, but unfortunately it makes some threads difficult to understand when I see you posted and someone responds and I have you IGNORED.

Your suspicion that people would only give you a bad rating because of your personal political beliefs and that we would have an axe to grind... Don't flatter yourself! I have tried to hint to you in the past that your posts are way too long and without direction. You have only gotten worse and it is my opinion that because you are not even a real service provider that you do not have a place here on the board. If you do "provide a service" to our industry, I would hope you could show what it is. No, wait that would take you pages and pages.

Any one that agrees, how 'bout a Hell Yeah!

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[quote name='HarpoonAl']chris, an experiment:


You know what I 'suspect' might happen with some people who simply have an ax to grind with me because of my strong, personal political opinions.

I guess the thumbs down votes have to be kept anonymous, but I would hope anyone who votes me down (or up) will let me know personally in a post, and explain why. If they did that I would be obliged to accept their criticism objectively/fairly, and reply to them in kind, and I would.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 06:42 AM

sdmillar said:

Any one that agrees, how 'bout a Hell Yeah!
Hell yeah!
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 07:56 AM

SDMillar, please stop posting comments like this. I think that HarpoonAl probably wanted a private message as the vehicle for your diatribe against him. This is not the place for your nasty remarks, and you've done it too many times now.



[quote name='sdmillar']OK AL... Here you go. I am one that believes you rarely have anything constructive to add to these posts. I am telling you in public and would tell you personally when I meet you. You drone on and on without a point and many people have thanked me in PMs for hinting to this fact to you in the past. I have tried putting your posts on IGNORE, but unfortunately it makes some threads difficult to understand when I see you posted and someone responds and I have you IGNORED.

Your suspicion that people would only give you a bad rating because of your personal political beliefs and that we would have an axe to grind... Don't flatter yourself! I have tried to hint to you in the past that your posts are way too long and without direction. You have only gotten worse and it is my opinion that because you are not even a real service provider that you do not have a place here on the board. If you do "provide a service" to our industry, I would hope you could show what it is. No, wait that would take you pages and pages.

Any one that agrees, how 'bout a Hell Yeah!

Back to business
[quote name='HarpoonAl']chris, an experiment:


You know what I 'suspect' might happen with some people who simply have an ax to grind with me because of my strong, personal political opinions.

I guess the thumbs down votes have to be kept anonymous, but I would hope anyone who votes me down (or up) will let me know personally in a post, and explain why. If they did that I would be obliged to accept their criticism objectively/fairly, and reply to them in kind, and I would.[/QUOTE]

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 08:09 AM

Brandcandy,

I don't think that his post was nasty. I, too, have placed Al on the ignore list. I have tried to read his posts and I have yet to understand what he is trying to do other than to stir up people against ASI and PPAI. He says he is on "good terms" with both, if that is correct why is he HIJACKING all the threads on this board to rail against the two companies?
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Posted 10 October 2005 - 08:25 AM

To be honest, I don't understand his posts well either. But I don't feel that this forum is the place to rally against someone by urging "hell yeahs" from others. There is a difference between disagreeing with someone or commenting on not understanding a stance and taking the time to level someone with the verbiage SDMillar uses.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 08:31 AM

Unfortunately some of Harpoon Al's postings have been a little verbose to say the least.

I'm sure more than a few of us were hoping that he would take the gentle hint, but as it looks like he hasn't, I sure can understand the other members frustrations.

I would also like to know exactly what type of service he is providing to our industry. In other words, in TEN words or less, what do you do, AL?
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